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My Zigbee network connection seems to be intermittent. Suddenly all routers will lose connection, for example unable to ping any of the routers. After awhile (e.g overnight or a period of a few days) the network will be up again.

Set up:

  • 1x coordinator
  • 21x routers
  • 42x end devices(in use)

Currently using channel 25.

I want to find out if mounting the Zigbee router on metal partitions(wall) will cause problems for the network. The part of the network that is in another building with no metal partitions seems to be more stable. Or are there any other factors that will cause the network to be unstable?

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    I used to have similar issues because the router was screwed to a 7mm metal plate, and the antenna needed some free space to propagate the signal. You can easily test it attaching an external antenna to the router.
    – Snake Sanders
    Jun 2 '17 at 8:27
  • we already have an external antenna attached, planning to shift the router onto the ceiling instead of having it mounted on the metal partition
    – Jess
    Jun 5 '17 at 5:54
  • It's hard to tell without knowing the specifics of your antenna and those walls, but yes, that could definitely cause problems. You may be having reflections from those metal partitions causing strange problems your Zigbees can't deal with. The signals can't go through the metal walls so your path loss might simply be too high that area. Moving them seems like the best option, but if its easy you could try going to the lowest or highest frequency channel to see if that helps.
    – Fuffer
    Jun 5 '17 at 17:53
  • @cburf the metal partition consist of 2 pieces of metal 1mm thick, in between is rock wool. I do not have specifics of the antenna...
    – Jess
    Jun 7 '17 at 3:11
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It is important to identify whether the problem is :

  • Devices or network deployment
  • Devices or network configuration.
  • Devices Hardware (or firmware versions)
  • Environment
  • Security configuration

The paths to take here are too diverse so you need to narrow down the cases. Sometimes a photo helps to spot the possible deployment issues.

Here are some ideas:

  1. A nearby lift can reduce the signal due to the amount of metal in it
  2. Also consider the water as strong signal attenuation, this includes humans, to if that is a crowded area it is better to have the antennas above 2m.
  3. I have seen communication problems and it was due to the wiring was badly bended in a sharp 90 degree angle, this damaged the internal filaments.
  4. Another case I saw is that too many Zigbee gateways (Access Point) can produce conflict since the clients may roam from one to another, this depends on the local distribution of the gateways and the signal strength. If the clients are statically located I would assign them fixed gateways
  5. The proportion between the amount of clients and the amount of Gateways has to me calculated and check.
  6. Don't forget to check also the configuration, maybe there is a bottle neck, this is, many clients use the same subnet, so all the packages are forwarded to a single switch/router. In that case splitting the clients in groups or subnets and diverging the traffic can be a possible solution.
  7. Are all the client devices and gateways running the same firmware (SW) versions? Are all up-to-date
  8. Is there any difference in the security configuration? The encryption and VPN usually slow down the traffic if we compare them with non-protected networks.
  9. I almost forgot to say that the logs from the clients or the Gateway will provide you relevant information about the communication. If all the net goes off abruptly and remains in that state for days, I will go for the gateway logs an see if the is some indications that the communication is lost.
  10. Check for duplicated IP address, the behavior you describe can also be due to 2 devices with the same IP and when one of them is on the net, the other is not communicating at all. Check the routers IPs in this case.
  11. Once I experienced communication lost in a customer and it turned out that the security of the net did not allow clients to reconnect more than 3 times in a row, then the router would ban my client for hours. All this was security configuration in the router/gateway.

But of course for all this we need more information about the deployment and the configuration

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  • Thanks for the reply, most of our antennas are above 2m, our clients roam freely around the buildings, there are no duplicated addresses. I do not have information about the security configuration
    – Jess
    Jun 8 '17 at 2:47
  • what about the logs, have you had the change to get them and see if there are disconnections and the reason for that? Also in the log you could see the signal strength...
    – Snake Sanders
    Jun 13 '17 at 13:23
  • The system either does not have any logs or I do not have access to it.All the routers in the particular building started losing connection to the network one by one after the installation of 5 new routers, Even the existing ones. This only occurs in this particular building.My coordinator is in another building and there is a bridging router as well.
    – Jess
    Jun 14 '17 at 0:33

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